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authorAndreas K. Hüttel <dilfridge@gentoo.org>2017-02-26 13:27:43 +0100
committerAndreas K. Hüttel <dilfridge@gentoo.org>2017-02-26 13:27:43 +0100
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diff --git a/decisions/.gitignore b/decisions/.gitignore
index ba52803..56bed82 100644
--- a/decisions/.gitignore
+++ b/decisions/.gitignore
@@ -11,3 +11,4 @@ decisions.bur
decisions.mld
decisions.mlr
summary-*.aux
+*.backup
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.but b/decisions/decisions.but
index 44ae875..3378393 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.but
+++ b/decisions/decisions.but
@@ -4,6 +4,8 @@
[Future EAPI] Allow directories for use.* and package.* entries in profiles
503382
Missing summaries for 20131210, 20140114, and 20140225 council meetings
+53269
+GLEP 27 needs to be implemented (Portage Management of UIDs/GIDs)
565566
New ChangeLogs are in chronological order
565700
@@ -26,6 +28,8 @@ Extremely uncooperative behavior from games team
Editing on XS screens
579460
please make repoman ignore a missing "# $Id$" header line
+584610
+[QA] sys-devel/gcc[-multislot] blockers and upgrade behavior change
590972
repoman should prevent people from adding a new package with a metadata.xml pointing to maintained-needed directly
596678
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mlf b/decisions/decisions.mlf
index deccb8f..7f26dd7 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.mlf
+++ b/decisions/decisions.mlf
@@ -1,19 +1,27 @@
00e02ff494857599633e2bbc30520ca3:gentoo-project
Andrew Savchenko
+0a21c4f6829ea34214169a96cacce931:gentoo-project
+Michał Górny
1ccf2b07b96f4b164e6f69fb5d2d6cc7:gentoo-project
Raymond Jennings
3ebf4ccf0d4f27d6240888a3100d0d58:gentoo-project
Dirkjan Ochtman
402eb403e0f451e7bc0525b76e9d3da2:gentoo-project
Ulrich Mueller
+41e09d1ddc8b30abb9f9d21d205b7b82:gentoo-dev
+Michał Górny
4a88db38253494c6612a29117b2b19c8:gentoo-project
Matthew Thode
+50dbe189dd2641d5730f08944e7fa7ce:gentoo-project
+Anthony G. Basile
60481da5b44b778ca5c4405da28f61c7:gentoo-project
Michał Górny
637270936c9f07e3bd2f10ee45264a42:gentoo-project
Michał Górny
651feb859ae9669dfeaa19547fa698dc:gentoo-dev-announce
Robin H. Johnson
+68a870c0519fb1cb7152db38fc9d4935:gentoo-dev
+Michał Górny
6904e810caedf66d889458e6fd1cc552:gentoo-dev
Ulrich Mueller
69ed522b3b53de90e616267a77441012:gentoo-project
@@ -24,6 +32,8 @@ Kristian Fiskerstrand
Kristian Fiskerstrand
9578d459aee22ca47b1dc19149684662:gentoo-project
Ulrich Mueller
+a08ea09c2c8e534fd9bc1146703c66ff:gentoo-dev
+Michał Górny
a292e9567fac838681899b50dff24cce:gentoo-project
Michał Górny
b9460b9c8d578c3498c217c17b75afd4:gentoo-dev
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mls b/decisions/decisions.mls
index 54f3742..40e3c98 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.mls
+++ b/decisions/decisions.mls
@@ -1,19 +1,27 @@
00e02ff494857599633e2bbc30520ca3:gentoo-project
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2016-02-14
+0a21c4f6829ea34214169a96cacce931:gentoo-project
+Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2017-02-12
1ccf2b07b96f4b164e6f69fb5d2d6cc7:gentoo-project
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-11-13
3ebf4ccf0d4f27d6240888a3100d0d58:gentoo-project
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2016-02-14
402eb403e0f451e7bc0525b76e9d3da2:gentoo-project
[gentoo-project] Re: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-04-10
+41e09d1ddc8b30abb9f9d21d205b7b82:gentoo-dev
+[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Masterplan for solving LINGUAS problems
4a88db38253494c6612a29117b2b19c8:gentoo-project
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-11-13
+50dbe189dd2641d5730f08944e7fa7ce:gentoo-project
+[gentoo-project] Gentoo Council: agenda for June 12 meeting
60481da5b44b778ca5c4405da28f61c7:gentoo-project
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-11-13
637270936c9f07e3bd2f10ee45264a42:gentoo-project
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2016-01-10
651feb859ae9669dfeaa19547fa698dc:gentoo-dev-announce
[gentoo-dev-announce] rsync.gentoo.org rsync modules: gentoo-repo-changelog added, gentoo-x86-portage &amp; gentoo-sec discontinued.
+68a870c0519fb1cb7152db38fc9d4935:gentoo-dev
+Re: [gentoo-dev] Council Council: call for agenda items for June 12 meeting
6904e810caedf66d889458e6fd1cc552:gentoo-dev
Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Python ABIFLAGS rebuild needed
69ed522b3b53de90e616267a77441012:gentoo-project
@@ -24,6 +32,8 @@ Ongoing stabilization discussion (Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2016-11-1
[gentoo-dev] RFC: Eclasses and EAPI
9578d459aee22ca47b1dc19149684662:gentoo-project
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-12-13
+a08ea09c2c8e534fd9bc1146703c66ff:gentoo-dev
+[gentoo-dev] [RFC] How to deal with LINGUAS mess?
a292e9567fac838681899b50dff24cce:gentoo-project
Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-04-10
b9460b9c8d578c3498c217c17b75afd4:gentoo-dev
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.tex b/decisions/decisions.tex
index fd4db94..02cec8f 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.tex
+++ b/decisions/decisions.tex
@@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ pdfauthor={Andreas K. Huettel}
\chapter{Topic notes}
-\chapter{Meeting summaries}
+\chapter{Meeting summaries 2015/16}
\include{summary-20151108}
\include{summary-20151213}
@@ -131,13 +131,18 @@ pdfauthor={Andreas K. Huettel}
\include{summary-20160313}
\include{summary-20160410}
\include{summary-20160508}
+\include{summary-20160612}
+
+\chapter{Meeting summaries 2016/17}
\include{summary-20160710}
\include{summary-20160814}
\include{summary-20160911}
\include{summary-20161009}
\include{summary-20161113}
-
+\include{summary-20161211}
+\include{summary-20170109}
+\include{summary-20170212}
\end{document}
diff --git a/decisions/summary-20160612.tex b/decisions/summary-20160612.tex
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..f23edc4
--- /dev/null
+++ b/decisions/summary-20160612.tex
@@ -0,0 +1,63 @@
+\summary{2016}{6}{12}
+
+Agenda: \agoref{gentoo-project}{50dbe189dd2641d5730f08944e7fa7ce}
+
+
+\agendaitem{Discussion on mgorny's items}
+\index{INSTALL\_MASK}\index{USE\_EXPAND}\index{LINGUAS}\index{L10N}
+\index{package!sys-devel/gcc}\index{use flag!multislot}
+
+Reference: \agoref{gentoo-dev}{68a870c0519fb1cb7152db38fc9d4935}
+
+Michał Gorny proposed several unrelated items in a lengthy e-mail:
+\begin{enumerate}
+ \item a "file installation mask" GLEP,
+ \item for portage to actually adhere to USE\_EXPAND semantics,
+ \item\label{mgms} to abolish the sys-devel/gcc multislot use flag entirely,
+ \item\label{mgln} the migration from LINGUAS USE\_EXPAND to L10N
+ \item discussion of the gui use flag.
+\end{enumerate}
+He later withdrew all these proposals. Items \ref{mgms} and \ref{mgln} were
+discussed anyway.
+
+Regarding \ref{mgms}, \bug{584610}, blueness as toolchain member explained that
+now the new implementation of the multislot use flag in sys-devel/gcc
+controls a blocker. If unset, previous gcc versions are blocked and
+consequently unmerged on update (leading to potential ABI breakage in
+C++). If set, minor version bumps accumulate on update.
+
+This led to a discussion why 1) the blocker exists, why 2) the slot
+was refined from major version bumps (4.8, 4.9) to point releases
+(4.8.1, 4.8.2, ...), and why this behaviour was not reserved to an
+overlay for toolchain specialists. For none of these questions valid
+technical arguments were known.
+
+After discussion blueness proposed to e-mail vapier, request
+clarifications on the changes and ask him if he wants to force
+USE=multislot universally, since this seems to be the easier choice.
+
+Regarding \ref{mgln}, see
+\begin{itemize}
+ \item \agoref{gentoo-dev}{a08ea09c2c8e534fd9bc1146703c66ff}
+ \item \agoref{gentoo-dev}{41e09d1ddc8b30abb9f9d21d205b7b82}
+\end{itemize}
+
+ulm explained that LINGUAS should become a normal environment variable
+(since it has a special meaning to gettext) and the current USE\_EXPAND
+functionality should be transferred to a new variable L10N. No council
+decision is required; the new variable will be introduced in a news
+item.
+
+\agendaitem{Bugs with council involvement}
+
+Dilfridge was reminded to complete the missing summaries; blueness
+announced that he just finished two summaries.
+
+No action was taken regarding games.eclass and the games team.
+
+\bug{565566} was mentioned but no action was taken.
+
+
+\agendaitem{Subsequent non-public meeting}
+
+A non-public discussion of bug 592598 followed.
diff --git a/decisions/summary-20161211.tex b/decisions/summary-20161211.tex
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..6231a24
--- /dev/null
+++ b/decisions/summary-20161211.tex
@@ -0,0 +1,62 @@
+
+\summary{2016}{12}{11}
+
+\agendaitem{Dropping of IA-64/SPARC Stable support}
+\index{arch!ia64}\index{arch!sparc}\index{stabilization!stable arches}
+\index{security!supported arches}
+
+The general discussion was around the distinction between security
+support and stable support, and the general sense was that stable
+support should probably be tabled and addressed by the stable working
+group. It was believed that addressing security support for these archs
+would address the original concern.
+
+\vote{The council defers to the security team, but is supportive of dropping
+security support for sparc if it is unable to generally meet the
+security team timelines.}{Accepted unanimously.}
+
+\agendaitem{Gentoo-council mailing list, -project list moderation (also, purpose
+of -project)}
+\index{mailing list!gentoo-project}
+
+\vote{
+The council would like the community to consider mailing list
+discipline when posting to the various MLs of the Gentoo community. This
+includes, but is not limited to, thread discipline and a consideration
+of whether a new post adds value to the discussion at hand when posting
+in order to ensure a good signal to noise ratio. Messages should be inline
+quotation and cropped to the relevant quotation needed for context in order to
+improve readability}{yes: blueness, dilfridge, jlec, k\_f, rich0, ulm; abstain:
+williamh}
+
+It was noted that sometimes top-posting can be appropriate, and these
+aren't completely hard rules.
+
+\agendaitem{Open floor}
+\index{trustees}\index{metastructure!reorganization}
+\index{umbrella organization}\index{SPI}
+
+prometheanfire brought up whether it would be beneficial to have
+Council/Trustee members attend each other's meetings to provide more
+immediate feedback on questions. The sense was that this could be
+useful, but probably should be based on specific agenda topics/etc and
+requested in advance vs being a general practice.
+
+prometheanfire brought up his proposal for having a single governing
+board at
+\href{
+https://docs.google.com/document/d/10xzPUREMzZllT7dLs85JjMvlymEY9wWzYPRCnTZIsfI/
+edit?usp=sharing}{the linked Google docs document}.
+He is looking for comments from both Council and Trustees. It was
+suggested that this be taken to the lists, but there was general
+interest in participation.
+
+rich0 mentioned that he would be working on a comrel glep, but he'll
+take the details to the lists/etc as time was running long. Anybody who
+is interested can participate, and prometheanfire and neddyseagoon both
+registered interest.
+
+dilgridge brought up Software in the Public Interest and asked the
+Trustees to take another look at them. It was suggested that this might
+be worked into the single board proposal in some way since it is a
+metastructure change.
diff --git a/decisions/summary-20170109.tex b/decisions/summary-20170109.tex
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..62dc795
--- /dev/null
+++ b/decisions/summary-20170109.tex
@@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
+
+\summary{2017}{1}{9}
+
+\agendaitem{Bugs with council involvement}
+
+\bug{565566}: ChangeLog files are now distributed in a separate rsync module,
+but still in the wrong order. Leaving a polite reminder on the bug was
+considered
+
+\agendaitem{Open floor}
+
+No items were brought forward.
diff --git a/decisions/summary-20170212.tex b/decisions/summary-20170212.tex
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..9a1c7b9
--- /dev/null
+++ b/decisions/summary-20170212.tex
@@ -0,0 +1,29 @@
+
+\summary{2017}{2}{12}
+
+\agendaitem{Discussion of GLEP 27}
+
+References:
+\begin{itemize}
+ \item
+ \agoref{gentoo-project}{0a21c4f6829ea34214169a96cacce931}
+ \item
+ \bug{53269}
+ \item
+ \glep{27}
+\end{itemize}
+
+After some discussion, the following motion was adopted:
+\vote{Since GLEP 27 has never been implemented, the council is open to
+alternative solutions and improvements on the idea.}{Approved unanimously.}
+
+
+\agendaitem{Bugs with council involvement}
+
+Dilfridge promises to get \bug{571490} done asap.
+
+Regarding \bug{565566} there has been no change in status.
+
+\agendaitem{Open floor}
+
+No topics were brought up.