Index 2011/5 to 2011/7

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diff --git a/decisions/decisions.but b/decisions/decisions.but
index c36b0e7..b0374ba 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.but
+++ b/decisions/decisions.but
@@ -60,6 +60,8 @@ Slacker point for ferringb
 Tracker: Use flag restructuring
 354219
 [Future EAPI] Zero-or-one-of operator for REQUIRED_USE
+362803
+GLEP 48 (QA Team's Role and Purpose) update per council decision
 363005
 [Future EAPI] Define src_test to use emake (not -j1)
 379497
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mlf b/decisions/decisions.mlf
index 69fb0a1..4a30c8d 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.mlf
+++ b/decisions/decisions.mlf
@@ -32,6 +32,8 @@ Michał Górny
 Ben de Groot
 2ccbe9e7dcbbe2320835ea440f4cac1e:gentoo-project
 Ben de Groot
+2ff02d6910d797045af3659fb21c712f:gentoo-dev
+Fabian Groffen
 3806fe4e42dc8ce013e247a081e3d4a0:gentoo-project
 Denis Dupeyron
 3a319600f3dc2dc42703a710155b2882:gentoo-project
@@ -94,6 +96,8 @@ Andreas K. Huettel
 Kristian Fiskerstrand
 71c67cdf620f262b4f94765360c8c8c2:gentoo-project
 Tom Wijsman
+7986aa2d9651c600f7302a8d84cc3721:gentoo-project
+Ulrich Mueller
 79dc0c2dc7d8987a9c9ecaaa30e17bb2:gentoo-project
 Denis Dupeyron
 84f6893fb1dc1265367aa7ba19769244:gentoo-dev
@@ -126,6 +130,8 @@ a8b5b499b9dbfdaea57a8f2a158c1fe7:gentoo-project
 Rich Freeman
 a9492947c953dc48f74c825d8704ffc0:gentoo-dev
 Michał Górny
+ac161677a6e06a8647e16420eeae8d47:gentoo-project
+Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
 aed760e7431f6d5ec7518be4d5b75c84:gentoo-dev
 Pacho Ramos
 b20048140e8a261569fe4a1d561df6c6:gentoo-project
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mls b/decisions/decisions.mls
index 890e441..b6fde09 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.mls
+++ b/decisions/decisions.mls
@@ -32,6 +32,8 @@ Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2015-02-10
 Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract
 2ccbe9e7dcbbe2320835ea440f4cac1e:gentoo-project
 Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2015-03-10: call for agenda items
+2ff02d6910d797045af3659fb21c712f:gentoo-dev
+[gentoo-dev] ChangeLog generation - pros and cons (council discussion request)
 3806fe4e42dc8ce013e247a081e3d4a0:gentoo-project
 [gentoo-project] Re: [GLEP 39 overhaul] Does the council need a lead?
 3a319600f3dc2dc42703a710155b2882:gentoo-project
@@ -94,6 +96,8 @@ Re: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11
 Ongoing stabilization discussion (Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2016-11-13)
 71c67cdf620f262b4f94765360c8c8c2:gentoo-project
 Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08
+7986aa2d9651c600f7302a8d84cc3721:gentoo-project
+Re: [gentoo-project] Upcoming council meeting - Wednesday, 8th of June, 1900 UTC
 79dc0c2dc7d8987a9c9ecaaa30e17bb2:gentoo-project
 [gentoo-project] [GLEP 39 overhaul] Voting by email, proxies and slacker rule.
 84f6893fb1dc1265367aa7ba19769244:gentoo-dev
@@ -126,6 +130,8 @@ a8b5b499b9dbfdaea57a8f2a158c1fe7:gentoo-project
 Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11
 a9492947c953dc48f74c825d8704ffc0:gentoo-dev
 [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?
+ac161677a6e06a8647e16420eeae8d47:gentoo-project
+Re: [gentoo-project] Upcoming council meeting - Wednesday, 8th of June, 1900 UTC
 aed760e7431f6d5ec7518be4d5b75c84:gentoo-dev
 [gentoo-dev] Suggestion about how to tell ATs that a package can be stabilized on all arches at the same time
 b20048140e8a261569fe4a1d561df6c6:gentoo-project
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mlt b/decisions/decisions.mlt
index 4c90005..a41e409 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.mlt
+++ b/decisions/decisions.mlt
@@ -32,6 +32,8 @@ Mon, 09 Feb 2015 23:49:53
 Sun, 15 Feb 2015 02:57:53
 2ccbe9e7dcbbe2320835ea440f4cac1e:gentoo-project
 Mon, 02 Mar 2015 06:36:01
+2ff02d6910d797045af3659fb21c712f:gentoo-dev
+Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:12:05
 3806fe4e42dc8ce013e247a081e3d4a0:gentoo-project
 Fri, 14 May 2010 22:45:30
 3a319600f3dc2dc42703a710155b2882:gentoo-project
@@ -94,6 +96,8 @@ Fri, 02 Oct 2015 14:44:16
 Mon, 07 Nov 2016 12:14:58
 71c67cdf620f262b4f94765360c8c8c2:gentoo-project
 Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:31:23
+7986aa2d9651c600f7302a8d84cc3721:gentoo-project
+Wed, 01 Jun 2011 06:17:33
 79dc0c2dc7d8987a9c9ecaaa30e17bb2:gentoo-project
 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 23:46:54
 84f6893fb1dc1265367aa7ba19769244:gentoo-dev
@@ -126,6 +130,8 @@ a8b5b499b9dbfdaea57a8f2a158c1fe7:gentoo-project
 Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:12:04
 a9492947c953dc48f74c825d8704ffc0:gentoo-dev
 Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:28:37
+ac161677a6e06a8647e16420eeae8d47:gentoo-project
+Wed, 01 Jun 2011 00:07:49
 aed760e7431f6d5ec7518be4d5b75c84:gentoo-dev
 Sun, 08 Feb 2015 10:17:32
 b20048140e8a261569fe4a1d561df6c6:gentoo-project
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.tex b/decisions/decisions.tex
index ed5b32c..0771e68 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.tex
+++ b/decisions/decisions.tex
@@ -159,6 +159,8 @@ Council members: betelgeuse, calchan, dertobi123, leio, scarabeus, solar, ulm
 Council members: betelgeuse, bonsaikitten (starting 1/2011), chainsaw, 
 ferringb, halyc0n (until 12/2010), jmbsvicetto, scarabeus, wired
 
+All summaries have been added here.
+
 \include{summary-20100714}
 \include{summary-20100726}
 \include{summary-20100809}
@@ -171,12 +173,16 @@ ferringb, halyc0n (until 12/2010), jmbsvicetto, scarabeus, wired
 \include{summary-20110201}
 \include{summary-20110308}
 \include{summary-20110408}
+\include{summary-20110510}
+\include{summary-20110608}
 
 \chapter{Meeting summaries 2011/12}
 
 Council members: betelgeuse, chainsaw, dberkholz, grobian, hwoarang, 
 jmbsvicetto, ulm
 
+\include{summary-20110715}
+
 \include{summary-20120110}
 \include{summary-20120214}
 \include{summary-20120313}
diff --git a/decisions/summary-20110510.tex b/decisions/summary-20110510.tex
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..a980e20
--- /dev/null
+++ b/decisions/summary-20110510.tex
@@ -0,0 +1,29 @@
+
+\summary{2011}{5}{10}
+
+\agendaitem{Vote/discuss: ChangeLogs must be used in all situations}
+\index{ChangeLog}
+
+After some discussion the strictest rule was selected where ChangeLogs need
+    to be updated for all changes. The devmanual was already updated by Peteri
+    with the new wording during the meeting:
+
+\begin{itemize}
+\item 
+\url{
+http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/devmanual.git;a=commitdiff;h=eee81 
+246369d1124501528a289adbbb77a5e3cd1}
+\item
+\url{
+http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/devmanual.git;a=commitdiff;h=05923 
+dc0acae7624116407b08cd9bb734e542826}
+\end{itemize}
+
+
+\agendaitem{Open bugs}
+
+Nothing changed since last meeting for the currently open bugs.
+
+\agendaitem{Open floor - listen to the community}
+
+No issue was brought forward to the council.
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/decisions/summary-20110608.tex b/decisions/summary-20110608.tex
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..f31e35a
--- /dev/null
+++ b/decisions/summary-20110608.tex
@@ -0,0 +1,144 @@
+
+\summary{2011}{6}{8}
+
+
+* ChangeLog policy
+ * GLEP48 review
+ * Removal of support for old-style virtuals (ulm)
+ * Review of the ending council term
+ * Council web app
+
+ * open bugs with council involvement
+ * open floor - listen to the community
+
+
+
+\agendaitem{ChangeLog policy}
+\index{ChangeLog}
+
+Reference: \agoref{gentoo-dev}{2ff02d6910d797045af3659fb21c712f}
+
+    The policy approved by the council in the last meeting gave rise to some incidents and sparked much
+    debate. In the fallout Fabian made a request for the council to discuss 
+the ChangeLog generation.
+    Jorge suggested the council should divide this topic in 2 issues: the result of the policy approval
+    and the request to review the policy.
+    
+    
+    Jorge made a point of thanking both the QA lead and deputy lead for addressing the ChangeLog policy
+    and enforcing it inside QA, as well as thank DevRel (which Jorge and Petteri are part of) for their
+    resolution of the bug. Tony argued that the ChangeLog policy is working as intended. Petteri argued
+    that the policy is strict but that it does show how the problematic people react to policies in
+    general.
+    
+    After some discussion regarding the "strictness" of the policy and whether to accept the request to
+    review the policy, the council decided to not review the policy with 5 no votes and 1 abstention.
+    The council issued a clarification note about the policy stating that as one removes the ChangeLog
+    while dropping a package from the tree, there is no need to update it while commiting a package
+    removal. 
+    
+    The discussion then turned to the point about automatic generation of the ChangeLog. The following
+    debate mentioned having repoman -m call echangelog, having the ChangeLog files generated server
+    side and completing the move to the git tree.
+    
+    A vote was called stating that the decision of the council about automated changelog messages is
+    that repoman be updated to add the commit message to changelog, until such time as changelogs can
+    be created server side. The council also urges individual developers to join the effort to move
+    the tree to git. The vote was carried with 5 yes votes and 1 abstention. 2 council members each
+    approved one part and abstained on the other.
+    
+    Tony made a point of recalling that this decision does in no way affect the decision not to update
+    the changelog policy, so developers are still required to update changelogs for every commit.
+    Tomas and Alex provided some commit wrappers to call echangelog (dead 
+links).
+
+
+
+\agendaitem{GLEP 48 review}
+\index{GLEP!48}
+
+References:
+\begin{itemize}
+ \item 
+ \agoref{gentoo-project}{ac161677a6e06a8647e16420eeae8d47}
+ \item
+\url{
+http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/glep/glep 
+-0048.txt?r1=1.3\&r2=1.4}
+\end{itemize}
+
+
+    Jorge submitted a proposal to the ml to update GLEP 48.
+
+    After some initial debate over the power granted to the QA team, the 
+timeline in case
+    of an escalation to DevRel, the relation with DevRel and whether QA should only enforce
+    policies or also take part in creating policies, after the request by Patrick, Jorge
+    suggested pushing this back to the mls.
+    
+    Petteri then asked the council to at least vote to commit the non suspension related
+    parts of the proposal. The diff was approved with 6 yes votes.
+    
+    Alec during this discussion presented some thoughts about the QA team (dead 
+link).
+
+
+\agendaitem{Removal of support for old-style virtuals}
+\index{virtuals!old style}
+
+Reference: \agoref{gentoo-project}{7986aa2d9651c600f7302a8d84cc3721}
+
+    Ulrich made a request to the council to remove the support for old-style
+virtuals.
+
+    Jorge asked if there could be any compatibility issue with old installations and Petteri
+    asked what would happen to the vdb for old packages. Ulrich replied there should be no
+    compatiblity issues as it should be comparable to a package removal. So if the PM can't
+    resolve the old-style virtual, the package depending on it would pull the new-style
+    virtual.
+    
+    The proposal was approved with 6 yes votes.
+
+
+\agendaitem{Review of the ending council term}
+
+    Several council members took this chance to look back at the ending term and to make their
+    evaluation of what was accomplished. Most agreed it was fun and that it was nice working
+    with the other elected members. The members also wished a good time for the next council.
+    There was some talk about the move to git, including that council wasn't able to get it done,
+    a mention about not having moved forward with the GLEP 39 reform and a listing of some ideas
+    for next council.
+
+
+\agendaitem{Council web app}
+
+Reference:
+\url{http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2011/jbartosik/19001}
+
+    Joachim Bartosik, a GSoC student at Gentoo, who is working on a RoR app for
+council,
+    did a short demo for council members. The council was able to see the current state of
+    the app and the state of the meeting bot.
+
+
+\agendaitem{Open bugs with council involvement}
+
+
+\begin{itemize}
+ \item 
+ \bug{237381}:
+    Jorge said he failed to present a proposal for this bug.
+ \item
+ \bug{341959}:
+    Alex said he still needs to fix this bug and that he will do that soon.
+ \item
+ \bug{362803}:
+    Jorge commited the update approved in the council meeting to the text version
+    of the GLEP before the meeting ended. He promised to work in the html version
+    later in the day.
+\end{itemize}
+
+
+\agendaitem{Open floor - listen to the community}
+
+	No issue was brought forward to the council.
diff --git a/decisions/summary-20110715.tex b/decisions/summary-20110715.tex
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..001680c
--- /dev/null
+++ b/decisions/summary-20110715.tex
@@ -0,0 +1,74 @@
+
+\summary{2011}{7}{15}
+
+
+ * allow council members to present issues to be addressed in this term (15 min)
+ * listen to the community to see if there are any issues it would like
+   to see the council address in this term (10 min)
+ * next meeting date / chair
+
+ * Open Floor (10 min)
+       
+
+\agendaitem{Select the probable date for the monthly meetings}
+
+     2nd Tuesday of the month at 1900 UTC
+     
+\agendaitem{Discuss desired model of operation}
+
+
+After a review of some of the rules used by the previous council, the 
+council
+     members opted to keep some and review others:
+\begin{itemize}
+ \item 
+ instead of choosing the chair for the next meeting at the end of a meeting,
+     interested volunteers will send an email to the mls manifesting their willingness
+     and the council will setup a schedule for the whole year by rotating the task by
+     them. Chairs will also serve as secretaries and summaries should be maintained
+     during meetings by using a collaborative tool. 
+ \item
+ the council will use bugs to track issues. A specific council member will be
+     assigned to each bug to track it. The bugs progress will be reviewed on 
+meetings.
+ \item
+ the council members will discuss issues in the mls before the meetings so they
+     can focus on voting during the meetings.
+ \item
+ the council is open to have a 2nd montly meeting (possibly on the 4th Tuesday
+     of the month) or impromptu meetings when required.
+     Petteri recalled the council webapp and bot work is progressing so that should
+     help with chairing the meetings.
+\end{itemize}
+
+
+\agendaitem{Allow council members to present issues to be addressed in this 
+term}
+   
+     No member opted to present any issues at this time.
+
+     
+\agendaitem{Council election results}
+
+Jorge requested during the meeting that the council election results be moved to
+     the elections project space and be linked from the council space, instead of the
+     current duplication. The council members agreed with the change and Jorge will
+     ensure it is carried out.
+
+\agendaitem{Modifying GLEP 39}
+\index{GLEP!39}
+     
+Donnie asked for a clarification by the council members on whether they think a
+     global dev vote is required to update GLEP39 or not. The council voted 5 yes and
+     1 no that the council can't change GLEP39 as it requires a full developer vote.
+
+\agendaitem{Further meeting}
+     
+The council voted 4 yes and 3 no that there's no requirement for another meeting
+     this month to meet the requirements of GLEP39.
+
+
+\agendaitem{Listen to the community}
+
+   No issues were brought up to the council by the community.
+