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diff --git a/decisions/decisions.bux b/decisions/decisions.bux index 94da796..ee58c24 100644 --- a/decisions/decisions.bux +++ b/decisions/decisions.bux @@ -14,6 +14,8 @@ dynamic SLOT;SLOT!dynamic IUSE defaults 179380 ECONF_SOURCE +188449 +PMS;PMS!version components 194876 EAPI!1 211529 diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mlf b/decisions/decisions.mlf index d6238f3..b12532e 100644 --- a/decisions/decisions.mlf +++ b/decisions/decisions.mlf @@ -6,6 +6,8 @@ Andreas K. Huettel Michał Górny 05049f71afe57feda13c2f4c4adafc7c:gentoo-project William Hubbs +05614741b3942bfdfb21fd8ebb7955e0:gentoo-dev +Luca Barbato 0a21c4f6829ea34214169a96cacce931:gentoo-project Michał Górny 0ac51471c7e665c1eea33d4f38e7fd82:gentoo-project @@ -40,6 +42,8 @@ Ben de Groot Fabian Groffen 3675d8a397ee2b5b3088df42e3352b6f:gentoo-project Fabian Groffen +37b3ca89a1d253516437facd22a3d806:gentoo-dev +Mike Frysinger 3806fe4e42dc8ce013e247a081e3d4a0:gentoo-project Denis Dupeyron 3a319600f3dc2dc42703a710155b2882:gentoo-project @@ -72,6 +76,8 @@ Thomas Sachau Anthony G. Basile 5471f2db793e7fe9f50038fb23258c66:gentoo-project Theo Chatzimichos +54ee20d2b1d8122370afdd4b3d7aafc9:gentoo-dev +Donnie Berkholz 561ed4b5e0fa94eb1d4375693614aab1:gentoo-project Patrick McLean 5a3e7a62abc3f6f529cbb18d85f2fbcf:gentoo-project @@ -130,6 +136,8 @@ Ulrich Mueller Andreas K. Huettel 9db8a88aed9d35a4cf629228564bf127:gentoo-project Ulrich Mueller +9e9652212b3aefe09d93fc24c6ec4cb7:gentoo-dev +Donnie Berkholz 9ee60ed0bdb532d63e9fd535a48c864a:gentoo-project Michał Górny a08ea09c2c8e534fd9bc1146703c66ff:gentoo-dev @@ -172,12 +180,16 @@ bec5db8373fca0271fcadf0cd55724e8:gentoo-dev Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis c60f7c1514f175b8cc0d376ae9373e17:gentoo-project Ulrich Mueller +c6e4ba8293f50c1e0444e67d59cf85ea:gentoo-dev +Donnie Berkholz cb8a98613ce0682f9ee0aaa268f3374b:gentoo-dev Spider cd71445e6968d5630161ae72d9c38562:gentoo-project Michał Górny d4a276a047fd155512f9b746253582b7:gentoo-project Rich Freeman +d7c402fb577a3d5b1707e2bdf4b0a264:gentoo-council +Donnie Berkholz d899dd93be2f93b85f65f47c54087806:gentoo-project Pacho Ramos daa09e196660d1ecfe2fb7a7726ce489:gentoo-project @@ -214,3 +226,5 @@ fa05f5319ef4255d3e3fe34da79a2534:gentoo-project Dirkjan Ochtman fb5d6fe4d6f84eeb5fedff2e968675fb:gentoo-project William Hubbs +fdfd519c5372394cc7f3aacaefa387b9:gentoo-dev +Donnie Berkholz diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mls b/decisions/decisions.mls index f1342af..800075a 100644 --- a/decisions/decisions.mls +++ b/decisions/decisions.mls @@ -6,6 +6,8 @@ Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2016-02-14 Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-04-09 05049f71afe57feda13c2f4c4adafc7c:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting: Tuesday 11 November 2012, 19:00 UTC +05614741b3942bfdfb21fd8ebb7955e0:gentoo-dev +Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees 0a21c4f6829ea34214169a96cacce931:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2017-02-12 0ac51471c7e665c1eea33d4f38e7fd82:gentoo-project @@ -40,6 +42,8 @@ Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2015-03-10: call for agenda items [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog generation - pros and cons (council discussion request) 3675d8a397ee2b5b3088df42e3352b6f:gentoo-project [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog generation - pros and cons (council discussion request) +37b3ca89a1d253516437facd22a3d806:gentoo-dev +Re: [gentoo-council] Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June 3806fe4e42dc8ce013e247a081e3d4a0:gentoo-project [gentoo-project] Re: [GLEP 39 overhaul] Does the council need a lead? 3a319600f3dc2dc42703a710155b2882:gentoo-project @@ -72,6 +76,8 @@ Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-11-13 [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council: agenda for June 12 meeting 5471f2db793e7fe9f50038fb23258c66:gentoo-project [gentoo-project] gentoo/user and gentoo/contributor cloaks +54ee20d2b1d8122370afdd4b3d7aafc9:gentoo-dev +Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP56] USE flag descriptions in metadata 561ed4b5e0fa94eb1d4375693614aab1:gentoo-project [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-08-12 5a3e7a62abc3f6f529cbb18d85f2fbcf:gentoo-project @@ -130,6 +136,8 @@ Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-12-13 Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 9db8a88aed9d35a4cf629228564bf127:gentoo-project [gentoo-project] Re: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-04-09 +9e9652212b3aefe09d93fc24c6ec4cb7:gentoo-dev +Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June 9ee60ed0bdb532d63e9fd535a48c864a:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Council Meeting June 2: Call for Agenda Items a08ea09c2c8e534fd9bc1146703c66ff:gentoo-dev @@ -172,12 +180,16 @@ bec5db8373fca0271fcadf0cd55724e8:gentoo-dev [gentoo-dev] Summary of suggested new features in EAPI="4" c60f7c1514f175b8cc0d376ae9373e17:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-12-13 +c6e4ba8293f50c1e0444e67d59cf85ea:gentoo-dev +Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees cb8a98613ce0682f9ee0aaa268f3374b:gentoo-dev Re: [gentoo-dev] GTK und GTK2 Use Flag cd71445e6968d5630161ae72d9c38562:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Council Meeting June 2: Call for Agenda Items d4a276a047fd155512f9b746253582b7:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-06-11 +d7c402fb577a3d5b1707e2bdf4b0a264:gentoo-council +[gentoo-council] How to handle appeals d899dd93be2f93b85f65f47c54087806:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2015-03-10: call for agenda items daa09e196660d1ecfe2fb7a7726ce489:gentoo-project @@ -214,3 +226,5 @@ fa05f5319ef4255d3e3fe34da79a2534:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2016-02-14 fb5d6fe4d6f84eeb5fedff2e968675fb:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-08-14 +fdfd519c5372394cc7f3aacaefa387b9:gentoo-dev +Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?) diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mlt b/decisions/decisions.mlt index ec0247d..83d56c9 100644 --- a/decisions/decisions.mlt +++ b/decisions/decisions.mlt @@ -6,6 +6,8 @@ Sun, 04 Dec 2011 00:15:32 Sat, 30 Mar 2013 10:22:11 05049f71afe57feda13c2f4c4adafc7c:gentoo-project Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:02:49 +05614741b3942bfdfb21fd8ebb7955e0:gentoo-dev +Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:06:25 0a21c4f6829ea34214169a96cacce931:gentoo-project Tue, 31 Jan 2017 21:36:11 0ac51471c7e665c1eea33d4f38e7fd82:gentoo-project @@ -40,6 +42,8 @@ Mon, 02 Mar 2015 06:36:01 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:12:05 3675d8a397ee2b5b3088df42e3352b6f:gentoo-project Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:17:05 +37b3ca89a1d253516437facd22a3d806:gentoo-dev +Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:14:35 3806fe4e42dc8ce013e247a081e3d4a0:gentoo-project Fri, 14 May 2010 22:45:30 3a319600f3dc2dc42703a710155b2882:gentoo-project @@ -72,6 +76,8 @@ Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:17:59 Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:08:28 5471f2db793e7fe9f50038fb23258c66:gentoo-project Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:15:01 +54ee20d2b1d8122370afdd4b3d7aafc9:gentoo-dev +Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:20:42 561ed4b5e0fa94eb1d4375693614aab1:gentoo-project Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:59:43 5a3e7a62abc3f6f529cbb18d85f2fbcf:gentoo-project @@ -130,6 +136,8 @@ Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:16:50 Sun, 06 Apr 2014 12:35:37 9db8a88aed9d35a4cf629228564bf127:gentoo-project Tue, 02 Apr 2013 14:25:24 +9e9652212b3aefe09d93fc24c6ec4cb7:gentoo-dev +Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:09:50 9ee60ed0bdb532d63e9fd535a48c864a:gentoo-project Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:45:37 a08ea09c2c8e534fd9bc1146703c66ff:gentoo-dev @@ -172,12 +180,16 @@ bec5db8373fca0271fcadf0cd55724e8:gentoo-dev Sat, 18 Dec 2010 01:45:51 c60f7c1514f175b8cc0d376ae9373e17:gentoo-project Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:08:38 +c6e4ba8293f50c1e0444e67d59cf85ea:gentoo-dev +Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:15:28 cb8a98613ce0682f9ee0aaa268f3374b:gentoo-dev Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:44:33 cd71445e6968d5630161ae72d9c38562:gentoo-project Tue, 09 Jun 2015 11:12:05 d4a276a047fd155512f9b746253582b7:gentoo-project Mon, 27 May 2013 21:30:54 +d7c402fb577a3d5b1707e2bdf4b0a264:gentoo-council +Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:50:50 d899dd93be2f93b85f65f47c54087806:gentoo-project Sat, 07 Mar 2015 10:28:17 daa09e196660d1ecfe2fb7a7726ce489:gentoo-project @@ -214,3 +226,5 @@ fa05f5319ef4255d3e3fe34da79a2534:gentoo-project Wed, 03 Feb 2016 20:46:39 fb5d6fe4d6f84eeb5fedff2e968675fb:gentoo-project Thu, 04 Aug 2016 16:25:15 +fdfd519c5372394cc7f3aacaefa387b9:gentoo-dev +Fri, 30 May 2008 22:07:49 diff --git a/decisions/decisions.tex b/decisions/decisions.tex index d0c878b..c57ab7c 100644 --- a/decisions/decisions.tex +++ b/decisions/decisions.tex @@ -202,7 +202,8 @@ Council members: amne, betelgeuse, dberkholz, flameeyes, jokey \include{summary-20080410} \include{summary-20080508} \include{summary-20080515} - +\include{summary-20080612} +\include{summary-20080710} \chapter{Meeting summaries 2008/09} diff --git a/decisions/summary-20080612.tex b/decisions/summary-20080612.tex new file mode 100644 index 0000000..9b6b22d --- /dev/null +++ b/decisions/summary-20080612.tex @@ -0,0 +1,201 @@ + +\summary{2008}{6}{12} + + +\agendaitem{Moderation} +\index{council!meeting!channel mode} + +Modes +qnm, with voice for people involved in discussions? + +If it becomes necessary, we'll do it. Leave channel open till then. + + +\agendaitem{Time limit} +\index{council!meeting!time limit} + +2 hours? + +Yes. We'll move any topics we didn't cover to the mailing lists. + + + +\agendaitem{Document of being an active developer} +\index{developer certificate} + +Last month: Numerous suggested improvements to info on the certificate. + +Preparation: araujo needs to post progress, an updated certificate and +any new requests to the gentoo-council or gentoo-project list 2+ hours +before the meeting. + +Goal: Suggest changes. This should happen on-list. No discussion +expected. + + +\agendaitem{Slacker arches} +\index{arches!slacking} + +Preparation: vapier needs to send the post 2+ hours before the meeting. + +Goal: Suggest changes. This should happen on-list. No discussion +expected. + + +\agendaitem{Can the council help fewer bugs get ignored by arm/sh/s390 teams?} +\index{arch!arm}\index{arch!sh}\index{arch!s390} + +Preparation: Someone on an undermanned arch team needs to describe their +workflow on-list 2+ hours before the meeting. + +Goal: Suggest changes. This should happen on-list. No discussion +expected. + + +\agendaitem{PMS: Are versions allowed to have more than 8 digits?} +\index{PMS}\index{eclass!versionator} + +References: +\begin{itemize} + \item + \agoref{gentoo-dev}{db2f5c09c2c0c8b042ca3d0dcec7cdaf} + \item + \bug{188449} +\end{itemize} + +Preparation: Do the package maintainers with extremely long PVs need +them? The involved packages: +\begin{verbatim} + sys-process/fuser-bsd + sys-apps/net-tools + sys-apps/gradm + net-im/ntame + media-video/captury + media-libs/libcaptury + media-libs/capseo + sys-block/btrace + www-apache/mod_depends + net-wireless/rt2500 + sys-fs/unionfs +\end{verbatim} + +Preparation: What's the impact of extending versionator.eclass? + +Goal: With data in hand, make a decision. + +Decision: We didn't have all of the testing requested. We still voted to +allow versions $>8$ digits. Adding a maximum restriction is a separate +question and was not addressed -- if anyone wants this restriction, +please discuss with fellow implementors and present your consensus to +the council. + + +\agendaitem{How to handle appeals} +\index{council!appeal process} + +Preparation: Post to the gentoo-council mailing list 2+ hours before the +meeting with your opinion. + +\agoref{gentoo-council}{d7c402fb577a3d5b1707e2bdf4b0a264} + +Goal: Vote on an approach that was previously posted to the list. + +Decision: We approved dberkholz's proposal. + + + +\agendaitem{as-needed by default} +\index{as-needed}\index{LDFLAGS} + +antarus requested that we vote on whether to add it to the default +LDFLAGS. + +Preparation: Post your opinion to the -dev thread "RFC: --as-needed to +default LDFLAGS" 2+ hours before the meeting. + +\agoref{gentoo-dev}{fdfd519c5372394cc7f3aacaefa387b9} + +Goal: Vote. + +Result: Whether this should be in default LDFLAGS or suggested in +make.conf.example wasn't clear. Betelgeuse suggested that we should know +the whole tree will build with this LDFLAGS setting (with open bugs for +packages that append -Wl,--no-as-needed) before we would consider +enabling it by default. + +Antarus will post a deployment plan to -dev for discussion. We can vote +on it on -council as soon as it solidifies. + + +\agendaitem{GLEP 54} +\index{GLEP!54}\index{scm suffix}\index{PV} + +Preparation: Post your opinion to the -dev thread "A few questions to +our nominees" 2+ hours before the meeting. + +\begin{itemize} + \item + \agoref{gentoo-dev}{c6e4ba8293f50c1e0444e67d59cf85ea} + \item + \agoref{gentoo-dev}{05614741b3942bfdfb21fd8ebb7955e0} +\end{itemize} + +Goal: Vote. + +Result: lu_zero posted a second plan 12 hours ago. Since it hasn't been +around long enough to get much feedback, we decided to let them develop +and see if the ideas somehow merge. + + +\agendaitem{GLEP 55} +\index{GLEP!55}\index{EAPI suffix} + +Preparation: Post your opinion to the -dev thread "GLEP 55" 2+ hours +before the meeting. Let it attempt to come to a consensus before we +vote. + +\agoref{gentoo-dev}{c6e4ba8293f50c1e0444e67d59cf85ea} + +Goal: Vote once the discussion's no longer clearly ongoing. We can hold +this vote on the -council mailing list instead of waiting for the next +meeting. + + +\agendaitem{GLEP 56} +\index{GLEP!56}\index{use flags}\index{metadata.xml} + +Preparation: Post your opinion to the -dev thread "[GLEP56] USE flag +descriptions in metadata" 2+ hours before the meeting. Let it attempt to +come to a consensus before we vote. + +\agoref{gentoo-dev}{54ee20d2b1d8122370afdd4b3d7aafc9} + +Goal: Vote once the discussion's no longer clearly ongoing. We can hold +this vote on the -council mailing list instead of waiting for the next +meeting. + +There is still room for improvement in this GLEP, not so much in its +technical aspects but in the way it promotes itself, the possible +generation of legacy files, and the tools to use it. + + +\agendaitem{Status of PMS} +\index{PMS} + +ferringb said: + I'd like the council to please discuss the current status of PMS, if + the running of it satisfys the councils requirements of a *neutral* + standard, if the proposed spec actually meets said standards, and if + said spec is actually going to be approved sometimes this side of '09. + +Preparation: Post your opinion to the -dev thread "One-Day Gentoo +Council Reminder for June" 2+ hours before the meeting. + +\begin{itemize} + \item + \agoref{gentoo-dev}{9e9652212b3aefe09d93fc24c6ec4cb7} + \item + \agoref{gentoo-dev}{37b3ca89a1d253516437facd22a3d806} +\end{itemize} + +Result: This is a discussion that belongs on the mailing list. Council +members should post anything they have to add by the end of the weekend. diff --git a/decisions/summary-20080710.tex b/decisions/summary-20080710.tex new file mode 100644 index 0000000..0d91fc9 --- /dev/null +++ b/decisions/summary-20080710.tex @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ + +\summary{2008}{7}{10} + + +GLEP 56: Approved. Cardoe will get repoman changes made, followed by a + server-side script to generate use.local.desc from + metadata.xml. + + +The meeting wrapped up in under 1 hour again. We still need to work +harder to push more discussion and questions to the mailing list, +though. + + +\agendaitem{GLEP 54} +\index{GLEP!54} + +Preparation: Post your opinion to the -dev thread "A few questions to +our nominees" 4+ hours before the meeting. + +Last month: +\begin{itemize} + \item + \agoref{gentoo-dev}{c6e4ba8293f50c1e0444e67d59cf85ea} + \item + \agoref{gentoo-dev}{05614741b3942bfdfb21fd8ebb7955e0} +\end{itemize} + +Goal: Status check at meeting to see who's ready to vote. Vote on-list +no later than July 17. + +\begin{verbatim} +<Betelgeuse@> dberkholz: with GLEP 55 EAPI X can add the support for scm +<Betelgeuse@> dberkholz: and older Portage versions work just fine + +<Betelgeuse@> dberkholz: In general I oppose adding things to EAPI 0 + +< lu_zero@> dberkholz problem: if you have -scm installed +< lu_zero@> and then switch to a pm not knowing it +< lu_zero@> you have a nice recipe for inconsistency + +< Halcy0n@> I would really like to see a list of features that we would + end up having after implementing this GLEP. The GLEP + mentions possible enhancements, but I'd like to see what we + would have planned if we go forward with this change. +< Halcy0n@> Well, it only mentions one enhancement, I'd like to see + what else we could do to judge if it is worth it. +Halcy0n@> Betelgeuse: yes, I know there are some things we could do, + but I'd like to see a more extensive list of possibilities, + what are other possible ways of doing this (like a metadata + tag for the ebuild), and why those other methods aren't + sufficient. + +< dberkholz@> i think the point here is that the glep should address what + made its implementation superior to other possible ones, + which it also describes + +< dberkholz@> ok, i've noted the issues raised here +< dberkholz@> once they're address, the glep can be revised and we'll + consider it again +\end{verbatim} + +Summary: There were numerous questions that apparently were not brought + up on the mailing list in advance or were not addressed. + + +\agendaitem{GLEP 55} +\index{GLEP!55} + +Preparation: Post your opinion to the -dev thread "GLEP 55" 4+ hours +before the meeting. + +Last month: +\agoref{gentoo-dev}{c6e4ba8293f50c1e0444e67d59cf85ea} + +Goal: Status check at meeting to see who's ready to vote. Vote on-list +once we're ready. + +\begin{verbatim} +<Betelgeuse@> But I don't see the use of accepting it before we a) + Portage has something that would make use of it b) some + other pkg manager is made official +< Halcy0n@> So, can we vote on postponing a GLEP of this nature until + another glep requires such changes? +\end{verbatim} + +Summary: On hold pending a concrete requirement for it. GLEP 54 may be, +but that's unclear until it's been revised. + + +\agendaitem{GLEP 56} +\index{GLEP!56}\index{GLEP!56!approval} + +Preparation: Post your opinion to the -dev thread "[GLEP56] USE flag +descriptions in metadata" 4+ hours before the meeting. (Cardoe: Did the +requested updates ever get made?) + +Last month: +\agoref{gentoo-dev}{54ee20d2b1d8122370afdd4b3d7aafc9} + +Goal: Status check at meeting to see who's ready to vote. Vote on-list +no later than July 17, if requested changes are made. + +Requested changes were made: \url{ +http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/glep/glep-0056.txt?r1=1.1&r2=1.2 +} + +\begin{verbatim} +< Cardoe > Well the first step of making that portion happen is going + to be to add a check to repoman that if use.local.desc is + not present in the repo, do new QA check. +< Cardoe > Once that's in place that developers can use, then the + infra script will happen. +< Cardoe > I've already discussed it with the Portage folks and the + infra folks. +\end{verbatim} + +Summary: Approved. + |