From c32fbf2e09bbceec9d664e3e3524e73e18a56a30 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "Andreas K. Hüttel" Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 13:27:43 +0100 Subject: Convert and index some more months --- decisions/.gitignore | 1 + decisions/decisions.but | 4 +++ decisions/decisions.mlf | 10 +++++++ decisions/decisions.mls | 10 +++++++ decisions/decisions.tex | 9 ++++-- decisions/summary-20160612.tex | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ decisions/summary-20161211.tex | 62 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ decisions/summary-20170109.tex | 12 ++++++++ decisions/summary-20170212.tex | 29 +++++++++++++++++++ 9 files changed, 198 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) create mode 100644 decisions/summary-20160612.tex create mode 100644 decisions/summary-20161211.tex create mode 100644 decisions/summary-20170109.tex create mode 100644 decisions/summary-20170212.tex (limited to 'decisions') diff --git a/decisions/.gitignore b/decisions/.gitignore index ba52803..56bed82 100644 --- a/decisions/.gitignore +++ b/decisions/.gitignore @@ -11,3 +11,4 @@ decisions.bur decisions.mld decisions.mlr summary-*.aux +*.backup diff --git a/decisions/decisions.but b/decisions/decisions.but index 44ae875..3378393 100644 --- a/decisions/decisions.but +++ b/decisions/decisions.but @@ -4,6 +4,8 @@ [Future EAPI] Allow directories for use.* and package.* entries in profiles 503382 Missing summaries for 20131210, 20140114, and 20140225 council meetings +53269 +GLEP 27 needs to be implemented (Portage Management of UIDs/GIDs) 565566 New ChangeLogs are in chronological order 565700 @@ -26,6 +28,8 @@ Extremely uncooperative behavior from games team Editing on XS screens 579460 please make repoman ignore a missing "# $Id$" header line +584610 +[QA] sys-devel/gcc[-multislot] blockers and upgrade behavior change 590972 repoman should prevent people from adding a new package with a metadata.xml pointing to maintained-needed directly 596678 diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mlf b/decisions/decisions.mlf index deccb8f..7f26dd7 100644 --- a/decisions/decisions.mlf +++ b/decisions/decisions.mlf @@ -1,19 +1,27 @@ 00e02ff494857599633e2bbc30520ca3:gentoo-project Andrew Savchenko +0a21c4f6829ea34214169a96cacce931:gentoo-project +Michał Górny 1ccf2b07b96f4b164e6f69fb5d2d6cc7:gentoo-project Raymond Jennings 3ebf4ccf0d4f27d6240888a3100d0d58:gentoo-project Dirkjan Ochtman 402eb403e0f451e7bc0525b76e9d3da2:gentoo-project Ulrich Mueller +41e09d1ddc8b30abb9f9d21d205b7b82:gentoo-dev +Michał Górny 4a88db38253494c6612a29117b2b19c8:gentoo-project Matthew Thode +50dbe189dd2641d5730f08944e7fa7ce:gentoo-project +Anthony G. Basile 60481da5b44b778ca5c4405da28f61c7:gentoo-project Michał Górny 637270936c9f07e3bd2f10ee45264a42:gentoo-project Michał Górny 651feb859ae9669dfeaa19547fa698dc:gentoo-dev-announce Robin H. Johnson +68a870c0519fb1cb7152db38fc9d4935:gentoo-dev +Michał Górny 6904e810caedf66d889458e6fd1cc552:gentoo-dev Ulrich Mueller 69ed522b3b53de90e616267a77441012:gentoo-project @@ -24,6 +32,8 @@ Kristian Fiskerstrand Kristian Fiskerstrand 9578d459aee22ca47b1dc19149684662:gentoo-project Ulrich Mueller +a08ea09c2c8e534fd9bc1146703c66ff:gentoo-dev +Michał Górny a292e9567fac838681899b50dff24cce:gentoo-project Michał Górny b9460b9c8d578c3498c217c17b75afd4:gentoo-dev diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mls b/decisions/decisions.mls index 54f3742..40e3c98 100644 --- a/decisions/decisions.mls +++ b/decisions/decisions.mls @@ -1,19 +1,27 @@ 00e02ff494857599633e2bbc30520ca3:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2016-02-14 +0a21c4f6829ea34214169a96cacce931:gentoo-project +Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2017-02-12 1ccf2b07b96f4b164e6f69fb5d2d6cc7:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-11-13 3ebf4ccf0d4f27d6240888a3100d0d58:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2016-02-14 402eb403e0f451e7bc0525b76e9d3da2:gentoo-project [gentoo-project] Re: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-04-10 +41e09d1ddc8b30abb9f9d21d205b7b82:gentoo-dev +[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Masterplan for solving LINGUAS problems 4a88db38253494c6612a29117b2b19c8:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-11-13 +50dbe189dd2641d5730f08944e7fa7ce:gentoo-project +[gentoo-project] Gentoo Council: agenda for June 12 meeting 60481da5b44b778ca5c4405da28f61c7:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-11-13 637270936c9f07e3bd2f10ee45264a42:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2016-01-10 651feb859ae9669dfeaa19547fa698dc:gentoo-dev-announce [gentoo-dev-announce] rsync.gentoo.org rsync modules: gentoo-repo-changelog added, gentoo-x86-portage & gentoo-sec discontinued. +68a870c0519fb1cb7152db38fc9d4935:gentoo-dev +Re: [gentoo-dev] Council Council: call for agenda items for June 12 meeting 6904e810caedf66d889458e6fd1cc552:gentoo-dev Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Python ABIFLAGS rebuild needed 69ed522b3b53de90e616267a77441012:gentoo-project @@ -24,6 +32,8 @@ Ongoing stabilization discussion (Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2016-11-1 [gentoo-dev] RFC: Eclasses and EAPI 9578d459aee22ca47b1dc19149684662:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-12-13 +a08ea09c2c8e534fd9bc1146703c66ff:gentoo-dev +[gentoo-dev] [RFC] How to deal with LINGUAS mess? a292e9567fac838681899b50dff24cce:gentoo-project Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-04-10 b9460b9c8d578c3498c217c17b75afd4:gentoo-dev diff --git a/decisions/decisions.tex b/decisions/decisions.tex index fd4db94..02cec8f 100644 --- a/decisions/decisions.tex +++ b/decisions/decisions.tex @@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ pdfauthor={Andreas K. Huettel} \chapter{Topic notes} -\chapter{Meeting summaries} +\chapter{Meeting summaries 2015/16} \include{summary-20151108} \include{summary-20151213} @@ -131,13 +131,18 @@ pdfauthor={Andreas K. Huettel} \include{summary-20160313} \include{summary-20160410} \include{summary-20160508} +\include{summary-20160612} + +\chapter{Meeting summaries 2016/17} \include{summary-20160710} \include{summary-20160814} \include{summary-20160911} \include{summary-20161009} \include{summary-20161113} - +\include{summary-20161211} +\include{summary-20170109} +\include{summary-20170212} \end{document} diff --git a/decisions/summary-20160612.tex b/decisions/summary-20160612.tex new file mode 100644 index 0000000..f23edc4 --- /dev/null +++ b/decisions/summary-20160612.tex @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@ +\summary{2016}{6}{12} + +Agenda: \agoref{gentoo-project}{50dbe189dd2641d5730f08944e7fa7ce} + + +\agendaitem{Discussion on mgorny's items} +\index{INSTALL\_MASK}\index{USE\_EXPAND}\index{LINGUAS}\index{L10N} +\index{package!sys-devel/gcc}\index{use flag!multislot} + +Reference: \agoref{gentoo-dev}{68a870c0519fb1cb7152db38fc9d4935} + +Michał Gorny proposed several unrelated items in a lengthy e-mail: +\begin{enumerate} + \item a "file installation mask" GLEP, + \item for portage to actually adhere to USE\_EXPAND semantics, + \item\label{mgms} to abolish the sys-devel/gcc multislot use flag entirely, + \item\label{mgln} the migration from LINGUAS USE\_EXPAND to L10N + \item discussion of the gui use flag. +\end{enumerate} +He later withdrew all these proposals. Items \ref{mgms} and \ref{mgln} were +discussed anyway. + +Regarding \ref{mgms}, \bug{584610}, blueness as toolchain member explained that +now the new implementation of the multislot use flag in sys-devel/gcc +controls a blocker. If unset, previous gcc versions are blocked and +consequently unmerged on update (leading to potential ABI breakage in +C++). If set, minor version bumps accumulate on update. + +This led to a discussion why 1) the blocker exists, why 2) the slot +was refined from major version bumps (4.8, 4.9) to point releases +(4.8.1, 4.8.2, ...), and why this behaviour was not reserved to an +overlay for toolchain specialists. For none of these questions valid +technical arguments were known. + +After discussion blueness proposed to e-mail vapier, request +clarifications on the changes and ask him if he wants to force +USE=multislot universally, since this seems to be the easier choice. + +Regarding \ref{mgln}, see +\begin{itemize} + \item \agoref{gentoo-dev}{a08ea09c2c8e534fd9bc1146703c66ff} + \item \agoref{gentoo-dev}{41e09d1ddc8b30abb9f9d21d205b7b82} +\end{itemize} + +ulm explained that LINGUAS should become a normal environment variable +(since it has a special meaning to gettext) and the current USE\_EXPAND +functionality should be transferred to a new variable L10N. No council +decision is required; the new variable will be introduced in a news +item. + +\agendaitem{Bugs with council involvement} + +Dilfridge was reminded to complete the missing summaries; blueness +announced that he just finished two summaries. + +No action was taken regarding games.eclass and the games team. + +\bug{565566} was mentioned but no action was taken. + + +\agendaitem{Subsequent non-public meeting} + +A non-public discussion of bug 592598 followed. diff --git a/decisions/summary-20161211.tex b/decisions/summary-20161211.tex new file mode 100644 index 0000000..6231a24 --- /dev/null +++ b/decisions/summary-20161211.tex @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ + +\summary{2016}{12}{11} + +\agendaitem{Dropping of IA-64/SPARC Stable support} +\index{arch!ia64}\index{arch!sparc}\index{stabilization!stable arches} +\index{security!supported arches} + +The general discussion was around the distinction between security +support and stable support, and the general sense was that stable +support should probably be tabled and addressed by the stable working +group. It was believed that addressing security support for these archs +would address the original concern. + +\vote{The council defers to the security team, but is supportive of dropping +security support for sparc if it is unable to generally meet the +security team timelines.}{Accepted unanimously.} + +\agendaitem{Gentoo-council mailing list, -project list moderation (also, purpose +of -project)} +\index{mailing list!gentoo-project} + +\vote{ +The council would like the community to consider mailing list +discipline when posting to the various MLs of the Gentoo community. This +includes, but is not limited to, thread discipline and a consideration +of whether a new post adds value to the discussion at hand when posting +in order to ensure a good signal to noise ratio. Messages should be inline +quotation and cropped to the relevant quotation needed for context in order to +improve readability}{yes: blueness, dilfridge, jlec, k\_f, rich0, ulm; abstain: +williamh} + +It was noted that sometimes top-posting can be appropriate, and these +aren't completely hard rules. + +\agendaitem{Open floor} +\index{trustees}\index{metastructure!reorganization} +\index{umbrella organization}\index{SPI} + +prometheanfire brought up whether it would be beneficial to have +Council/Trustee members attend each other's meetings to provide more +immediate feedback on questions. The sense was that this could be +useful, but probably should be based on specific agenda topics/etc and +requested in advance vs being a general practice. + +prometheanfire brought up his proposal for having a single governing +board at +\href{ +https://docs.google.com/document/d/10xzPUREMzZllT7dLs85JjMvlymEY9wWzYPRCnTZIsfI/ +edit?usp=sharing}{the linked Google docs document}. +He is looking for comments from both Council and Trustees. It was +suggested that this be taken to the lists, but there was general +interest in participation. + +rich0 mentioned that he would be working on a comrel glep, but he'll +take the details to the lists/etc as time was running long. Anybody who +is interested can participate, and prometheanfire and neddyseagoon both +registered interest. + +dilgridge brought up Software in the Public Interest and asked the +Trustees to take another look at them. It was suggested that this might +be worked into the single board proposal in some way since it is a +metastructure change. diff --git a/decisions/summary-20170109.tex b/decisions/summary-20170109.tex new file mode 100644 index 0000000..62dc795 --- /dev/null +++ b/decisions/summary-20170109.tex @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ + +\summary{2017}{1}{9} + +\agendaitem{Bugs with council involvement} + +\bug{565566}: ChangeLog files are now distributed in a separate rsync module, +but still in the wrong order. Leaving a polite reminder on the bug was +considered + +\agendaitem{Open floor} + +No items were brought forward. diff --git a/decisions/summary-20170212.tex b/decisions/summary-20170212.tex new file mode 100644 index 0000000..9a1c7b9 --- /dev/null +++ b/decisions/summary-20170212.tex @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@ + +\summary{2017}{2}{12} + +\agendaitem{Discussion of GLEP 27} + +References: +\begin{itemize} + \item + \agoref{gentoo-project}{0a21c4f6829ea34214169a96cacce931} + \item + \bug{53269} + \item + \glep{27} +\end{itemize} + +After some discussion, the following motion was adopted: +\vote{Since GLEP 27 has never been implemented, the council is open to +alternative solutions and improvements on the idea.}{Approved unanimously.} + + +\agendaitem{Bugs with council involvement} + +Dilfridge promises to get \bug{571490} done asap. + +Regarding \bug{565566} there has been no change in status. + +\agendaitem{Open floor} + +No topics were brought up. -- cgit v1.2.3-18-g5258