\summary{2009}{9}{14} \agendaitem{Update on LiveCD/DVD for Gentoo 10.0.} \index{LiveDVD} Ned Ludd(solar) commmented that things were progressing fine. A new snapshot will be taken on September 20th and the cutoff date will be the 4th of October. \agendaitem{A Way to Modify the PMS such that it doesn't directly involve the EAPI Process} \index{PMS!modification} Joshua Jackson (tsunam) requested a decision on a process to modify PMS without involving the EAPI Process. There was discussion about whether PMS is a documenting simply documenting the ebuild API or if it is a broader document covering the entire tree. Agenda Item 3.1 (\agoref{gentoo-council}{96c702e85f79b8f5e22472ae2c961534}) was deferred until the next meeting to be discussed on mailing lists beforehand. \agendaitem{ Discussion of the Need for a PMS/EAPI committee outside of the council} \index{PMS} Of the three proposals (an external committee consisting of package manager representatives, a council member or two, and perhaps members of the PMS project; using the existing PMS project; something completely different), the council chose to do something complete different and what will be done will be discussed on list or next meeting.