\summary{2010}{8}{9}

Agenda call: ?

Agenda announcement: \agoref{gentoo-dev}{73124be313f6404c92a6ccc033970a6b}

\agendaitem{Disbanding the gentoo-council mailing list}
\index{mailing list!gentoo-council}
\index{mailing list!gentoo-project}

\vote{Merge the gentoo-project and gentoo-council mailing lists into one 
(gentoo-project).}{5 yes, 2 no, motion carried.}

\dev{scarabeus} will file the bug for infra to implement this.

\agendaitem{Should there a policy about eclass API changes?}
\index{eclasses!api changes}\index{PV}\index{project!qa}\index{GLEP!48}

We should make it easier for QA to take action when common sense is *not* used 
and things are broken.


\agendaitem{Suspension policies and python / portage breakage}
\index{suspension policies}\index{package!dev-lang/python}
\index{developer!arfrever}\index{package!sys-apps/portage}

\begin{itemize}
\item 
We should document better what PV means -- namely an upstream 
version.\footnote{The background can be found in \bug{330667} --- essentially 
\dev{arfrever} committed \package{dev-lang/python} release-PV ebuilds that were 
actually release branch snapshots.}
This is handled in \bug{331921}.
\item
The QA team will update its internal policies about the process to request the
suspension of commit rights of a developer. The revision might involve an 
update to \glep{48}. Further discussion will take place on the QA team mailing 
list.
\item 
We should learn from the python breakage to promote the importance of current
policies and why developers should use them properly. We use it as an example 
of how not do things, acknowledge it, and start a discussion of how to recover 
from it and how to ensure we can reach users in such cases.
\end{itemize}


\agendaitem{EAPI 4 status}
\index{EAPI!4}

\dev{ferringb} will review the status, and try to find some minion to help him.


\agendaitem{Bugs assigned to council@g.o}

\begin{itemize}
\item 
\bug{234706}: \dev{halcy0n} will create a new draft proposal soonish.
\item
\bug{256451}: The last summary is to be done by \dev{betelgeuse}.
\item
\bug{256453}: \dev{wired} wrote nice patch, and it will be updated according to 
the comments on the gentoo-project mailing list.\footnote{Patch for what? The 
patch is gone (pastebin).}
\item
\bug{237381}: \dev{jmbsvicetto} plans to have something to show at next month's 
meeting.
\item
\bug{316401}, \bug{316403} and \bug{316405} are all waiting on infra.
\end{itemize}