12:00 <@   mattst88> | roll call :)
12:00              * | mattst88 here
12:00              * | slyfox here
12:00              * | dilfridge here
12:00              * | gyakovlev here
12:00              * | ulm here
12:00              * | Whissi here
12:00              * | WilliamH here
12:01 <@   mattst88> | everyone :)
12:02 <@   mattst88> | bugs with council involvement: bug 729062
12:02 <  willikins> | mattst88: https://bugs.gentoo.org/729062 "Services and Software which is critical for Gentoo should be developed/run in the Gentoo namespace"; Gentoo Council, unspecified; CONF; jstein:council
12:02 <@   mattst88> | and the very recently filed bug 736418
12:02 <  willikins> | mattst88: https://bugs.gentoo.org/736418 "rework virtual/libudev and virtual/udev so that the non-systemd default udev provider is sys-fs/udev"; Gentoo Council, unspecified; CONF; williamh:council
12:02 <@   WilliamH> | 736418 is under discussion, I'm not sure it is ready for us yet, I just wanted to get it out there.
12:03 <@     Whissi> | We have to skip this for today -- my mail isn't landet yet
12:03 <@     Whissi> | (namespace)
12:03 <@   WilliamH> | It has to be a council decision ultimately since the switch away was done by the council.
12:03 <@   mattst88> | I don't see that jstein started a thread on gentoo-project@ wrt bug 729062; unless I'm missing it?
12:03 <  willikins> | mattst88: https://bugs.gentoo.org/729062 "Services and Software which is critical for Gentoo should be developed/run in the Gentoo namespace"; Gentoo Council, unspecified; CONF; jstein:council
12:03 <@   WilliamH> | sorry I'll shut up
12:04 <     Whissi> | mattst88: I volunteered but mail is still in drafts
12:04 <@   mattst88> | ah, okay
12:04 <@     slyfox> | Worth adding a note to the bug on the plan?
12:04 <@     Whissi> | sure, but i'll send it this night
12:05 <@     slyfox> | sounds good
12:05 <@   mattst88> | I see no other bugs that we need to discuss. the only others open are bug 662982 
12:05 <  willikins> | mattst88: https://bugs.gentoo.org/662982 "[TRACKER] New default locations for the Gentoo repository, distfiles, and binary packages"; Gentoo Linux, Current packages; CONF; zmedico:dev-portage
12:05 <@   mattst88> | and bug 688876
12:06 <@   mattst88> | and those are just Cc: council@
12:06 <@     slyfox> | i can't read bug #688876 :)
12:07 <@        ulm> | me neither
12:07 <@   mattst88> | unclear why it's secret. it's "Comrel webpage does not document expectations of privacy"
12:07 <@   mattst88> | un'comrel'ing it
12:07 <@  gyakovlev> | yeah need to unrestrict it
12:08 <@  dilfridge> | most likely "by default"
12:08 <@   mattst88> | anyway, I guess it's a pretty unbusy council meeting. shall we open the floor for other topics?
12:09 <@     slyfox> | sounds good
12:09 <@   mattst88> | any topics anyone wants to discuss?
12:11 <@   WilliamH> | As far as my udev bug goes, I guess we don't need to discuss it formally yet.
12:12 <@     Whissi> | you still have to answer some question, not?
12:12 <@   WilliamH> | Whissi: possibly, I'll look on the ml.
12:12 <@     Whissi> | Cool.
12:12 <@   WilliamH> | Do we need to discuss it here?
12:12 <@        ulm> | provide a reason at least
12:12 <@        ulm> | change for change's sake isn't good enough
12:13 <@  gyakovlev> | real reason, not "it seems we were wrong" type of reson =)
12:13 <@        ulm> | +1
12:13 <@  gyakovlev> | only trolling, bikeshedding and nothing useful so far on ML
12:14 <@     slyfox> | example practical bugs being fixed as a result would also help
12:14 <@        ulm> | in what meeting did the council decide on the switch from udev to eudev?
12:15 <@   WilliamH> | I don't have it. I think it was in 2016 or so.
12:15 <@     Whissi> | But I think we are done with today's meeting, not?
12:15 <@   WilliamH> | Yeah we basically are.
12:16 <@   mattst88> | FWIW, the ordering was changed in commit 032a08c5e57bf727cadf91749db02804b221c0a6
12:16 <@   WilliamH> | ulm pm if you want to work with me on digging up the info.
12:16 <@   mattst88> | and the commit message references bug 575718
12:16 <  willikins> | mattst88: https://bugs.gentoo.org/575718 "Request for council decision RE virtual/udev default provider"; Gentoo Linux, [OLD] Core system; RESO, FIXE; rich0:council
12:16 <@   mattst88> | looks like it was voted in in that bug, and the vote was 7-0
12:17 <@   mattst88> | Whissi: yeah; I'm happy to say the meeting is closed if there are no other topics -- which it seems there aren't
12:17 <@   mattst88> | thanks all!
12:17 <@     slyfox> | Thank you!
12:17 <@     Whissi> | \o/
12:17 <@        ulm> | thanks