Improve 1/2008

6 files changed, 116 insertions, 84 deletions

diff --git a/decisions/decisions.ded b/decisions/decisions.ded
index 311ee83..af9483a 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.ded
+++ b/decisions/decisions.ded
@@ -4,6 +4,9 @@ Aron Griffis
 amne
 Wernfried Haas
 
+araujo
+Luis Francisco Araujo
+
 azarah
 Martin Schlemmer
 
@@ -13,6 +16,9 @@ Steve Dibb
 betelgeuse
 Petteri Räty
 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Betelgeuse
+caleb
+Caleb Tennis
+
 ciaranm
 Ciaran McCreesh
 
@@ -25,6 +31,9 @@ Daniel Drake
 flameeyes
 Diego Elio Pettenò
 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Flameeyes
+fmccor
+Ferris McCormick
+
 g2boojum
 Grant Goodyear
 
@@ -55,9 +64,12 @@ Thierry Carrez
 kugelfang
 Danny van Dyk
 
+kumba
+Joshua Kinard
+https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Kumba
 lu_zero
 Luca Barbato
-
+https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Lu\%20zero
 musikc
 Christina Gianelloni
 
@@ -70,6 +82,9 @@ Patrick Lauer
 ramereth
 Lance Albertson
 
+rich0
+Richard Freeman
+
 robbat2
 Robin H. Johnson
 
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.gld b/decisions/decisions.gld
index 8f2a068..d577a69 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.gld
+++ b/decisions/decisions.gld
@@ -69,11 +69,11 @@ keywords;project!prefix
 54
 scm package version suffix
 Deferred
-scm version suffix
+scm version suffix;live suffix;ebuilds!live;packages!build from scm
 55
 Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)
 Rejected
-
+EAPI suffix
 57
 Security of distribution of Gentoo software - Overview
 Final
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mlf b/decisions/decisions.mlf
index 7108d59..f968835 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.mlf
+++ b/decisions/decisions.mlf
@@ -118,6 +118,8 @@ Denis Dupeyron
 Rich Freeman
 60481da5b44b778ca5c4405da28f61c7:gentoo-project
 Michał Górny
+6196880b1c05412836850b2476aacdc1:gentoo-dev
+Kumba
 62b5df924d6e9e74c94149e7e7f17d23:gentoo-dev
 Fabian Groffen
 637270936c9f07e3bd2f10ee45264a42:gentoo-project
@@ -142,6 +144,8 @@ Alexandre Buisse
 Mike Frysinger
 69ed522b3b53de90e616267a77441012:gentoo-project
 Michał Górny
+6a77b647228fc497a720151fa8a6e54c:gentoo-dev
+Mike Frysinger
 6cad9409772fa44415e84005ff922145:gentoo-council
 Ulrich Mueller
 6db80f9a66d80a3c4ec0480690ce77e4:gentoo-project
@@ -244,6 +248,8 @@ bc0a1b7498c389bdbb0b0d52feb43391:gentoo-project
 Ulrich Mueller
 bec5db8373fca0271fcadf0cd55724e8:gentoo-dev
 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
+c32c17977368bc02019bc8318df40dfc:gentoo-dev
+Caleb Tennis
 c60f7c1514f175b8cc0d376ae9373e17:gentoo-project
 Ulrich Mueller
 c6e4ba8293f50c1e0444e67d59cf85ea:gentoo-dev
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mls b/decisions/decisions.mls
index 4c3eacf..c5c52a3 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.mls
+++ b/decisions/decisions.mls
@@ -118,6 +118,8 @@ Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2012-05-08
 Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08
 60481da5b44b778ca5c4405da28f61c7:gentoo-project
 Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-11-13
+6196880b1c05412836850b2476aacdc1:gentoo-dev
+Re: [gentoo-dev] Of Mips and Devs [Was: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January]
 62b5df924d6e9e74c94149e7e7f17d23:gentoo-dev
 Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds
 637270936c9f07e3bd2f10ee45264a42:gentoo-project
@@ -142,6 +144,8 @@ Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Python ABIFLAGS rebuild needed
 [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for May
 69ed522b3b53de90e616267a77441012:gentoo-project
 Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2016-02-14
+6a77b647228fc497a720151fa8a6e54c:gentoo-dev
+[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January
 6cad9409772fa44415e84005ff922145:gentoo-council
 [gentoo-council] Re: Meeting chair
 6db80f9a66d80a3c4ec0480690ce77e4:gentoo-project
@@ -244,6 +248,8 @@ bc0a1b7498c389bdbb0b0d52feb43391:gentoo-project
 Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2016-01-10
 bec5db8373fca0271fcadf0cd55724e8:gentoo-dev
 [gentoo-dev] Summary of suggested new features in EAPI="4"
+c32c17977368bc02019bc8318df40dfc:gentoo-dev
+Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January
 c60f7c1514f175b8cc0d376ae9373e17:gentoo-project
 Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-12-13
 c6e4ba8293f50c1e0444e67d59cf85ea:gentoo-dev
diff --git a/decisions/decisions.mlt b/decisions/decisions.mlt
index 7cf4447..9bd5199 100644
--- a/decisions/decisions.mlt
+++ b/decisions/decisions.mlt
@@ -118,6 +118,8 @@ Sun, 16 May 2010 01:11:34
 Sun, 30 Mar 2014 14:07:52
 60481da5b44b778ca5c4405da28f61c7:gentoo-project
 Mon, 31 Oct 2016 07:32:03
+6196880b1c05412836850b2476aacdc1:gentoo-dev
+Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:07:00
 62b5df924d6e9e74c94149e7e7f17d23:gentoo-dev
 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:44:16
 637270936c9f07e3bd2f10ee45264a42:gentoo-project
@@ -142,6 +144,8 @@ Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:36:37
 Sun, 07 May 2006 23:37:06
 69ed522b3b53de90e616267a77441012:gentoo-project
 Fri, 12 Feb 2016 22:22:24
+6a77b647228fc497a720151fa8a6e54c:gentoo-dev
+Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:32:51
 6cad9409772fa44415e84005ff922145:gentoo-council
 Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:03:40
 6db80f9a66d80a3c4ec0480690ce77e4:gentoo-project
@@ -244,6 +248,8 @@ bc0a1b7498c389bdbb0b0d52feb43391:gentoo-project
 Sun, 27 Dec 2015 18:03:56
 bec5db8373fca0271fcadf0cd55724e8:gentoo-dev
 Sat, 18 Dec 2010 01:45:51
+c32c17977368bc02019bc8318df40dfc:gentoo-dev
+Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:06:46
 c60f7c1514f175b8cc0d376ae9373e17:gentoo-project
 Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:08:38
 c6e4ba8293f50c1e0444e67d59cf85ea:gentoo-dev
diff --git a/decisions/summary-20080110.tex b/decisions/summary-20080110.tex
index dd5d36d..7f296f7 100644
--- a/decisions/summary-20080110.tex
+++ b/decisions/summary-20080110.tex
@@ -1,142 +1,141 @@
 
 \summary{2008}{1}{10}
 
+Agenda call: \agoref{gentoo-dev}{6a77b647228fc497a720151fa8a6e54c}
+
 
 \agendaitem{GLEP 54: scm package version suffix}
-\index{scm version suffix}\index{CPV}
 
 Reference: \glep{54}
 
-Comment from portage maintainer:
+The proposed GLEP was discussed. Comments from portage maintainer \dev{genone} 
+were:
 \begin{itemize}
  \item 
- no statement about compatibility/implementation plans
+ There is no statement about compatibility/implementation plans in the GLEP.
+ \item
+ While a distinction between CPV and atom may not be technically required, it 
+ might be useful to have
  \item
- more subjective:
- \begin{itemize}
-  \item while a distinction between CPV and atom may not be technically
-	    required, I might be useful to have
-  \item (minor) if the version part is optionl there could be some
-	    complications
- \end{itemize}
+ (minor) If the version part is optional there could be some complications.
 \end{itemize}
 
-So is this something we'd like to have?
+So is this something we'd like to have (before we decide on details)? The -9999 
+version usage in the tree was started since there was no progress on \bug{9202}.
 
-Other ideas that came up during discussion:
+Other (implementation) ideas that came up during discussion:
 \begin{itemize}
  \item 
- -scm or _scm ?
+ Should we use a -scm or _scm suffix?
  \item
- handling as (-|_pre)9999) versions per definition
+ Alternatively, handling (-$\vert$_pre)9999) as scm versions per definition?
  \item
- implement as dynamic package sets
+ Implement this as dynamic package sets?
 \end{itemize}
 
-Related bugs: \bug{9202}
-
-Pushed back to -dev ML as there are too many unresolved questions at
-	the moment. peper is given the task to repost it and expand on
-	usefulness / use cases as well as compatibility issues.
+The topic was pushed back to the gentoo-dev mailing list as there are too many 
+unresolved questions at the moment. \dev{peper} is given the task to repost it 
+and expand on usefulness / use cases as well as on compatibility issues.
 
 
 \agendaitem{GLEP 55: Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)}
 
 Reference: \glep{55}
 
-Agreement on eapi subdirectories are not feasible.
+This resulted in a lengthy discussion on technical advantages and 
+disadvantages, including using a pre-sourcing EAPI as mask before providing the 
+final EAPI of an ebuild via sourcing, or converting the EAPI assignment to a 
+function call and using a repository bashrc for backwards 
+compatibility.\footnote{The whole proposal was 
+initially kicked off for allowing eclasses to use a different EAPI from an 
+ebuild.} There was agreement that EAPI subdirectories are not feasible.
 
-Ideas during discussion:
- moving from EAPI= to eapi function and using repository bashrc for
-	  compatibility
-
-Pushed back to -dev ML as there are too many unresolved questions at
-	the moment.
+The topic was pushed back to the gentoo-dev mailing list as there are too many 
+unresolved questions at the moment.
 
 
 
 \agendaitem{Slacker arches}
-\index{arches!slacking}
+\index{arches!slacking}\index{arch!mips}
 
 References: 
 \begin{itemize}
  \item 
- Calebs post:
-	  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/53933 (dead link)
+ \dev{caleb}'s post: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/53933 
+ (dead link)\footnote{Likely the 
+ \agoref{gentoo-dev}{c32c17977368bc02019bc8318df40dfc}}
  \item
- Kumba's comment on mips status:
-	  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/54168 (dead link)
+ \dev{kumba}'s comment on mips status:
+ http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/54168 (dead 
+ link)\footnote{Likely the 
+ \agoref{gentoo-dev}{6196880b1c05412836850b2476aacdc1}}
  \item
- Rich0's proposal:
-	  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/54103 (dead link)
+ \dev{rich0}'s proposal: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/54103 
+ (dead link)\footnote{Can't find it in the archive. It seems to have involved 
+ timeouts of some sorts.}
 \end{itemize}
 
-vapier will work on rich0's suggestion and repost it for discussion on
-	-dev ML
+\dev{vapier} will work on \dev{rich0}'s suggestion and repost it for discussion 
+on the gentoo-dev mailing list.
 
 
 
 \agendaitem{Code of Conduct}
-\index{Code of Conduct!enforcement}
+\index{Code of Conduct!enforcement}\index{project!devrel}
+\index{project!userrel}
 
 
 References: 
 \begin{itemize}
  \item 
-	http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.council/82 (dead link)
+ \agoref{gentoo-council}{cbfe572adb090dfba1cc004b1cca6979}
  \item
-	http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20071108-summary.txt
+ November 2007 Council meeting
  \item
-	http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20071213-summary.txt
+ December 2007 Council meeting
 \end{itemize}
 
 What needs to happen for us to make a decision?
 
-Last week, we agreed to just add moderators to \#gentoo-dev and the
-gentoo-dev list. Other places with their own moderation should enforce 
-the CoC themselves. We also agreed that moderation must be handed over to 
-devrel or userrel after 2 days.
+Last week, we agreed to just add moderators to \#gentoo-dev and the gentoo-dev 
+list. Other places with their own moderation should enforce the CoC themselves. 
+We also agreed that moderation must be handed over to devrel or userrel after 2 
+days.
 
-Ferris asked some questions:
+\dev{fmccor} asked some questions:
 \begin{enumerate}
-\item Do we have an implementation schedule? ;
-\item Have we identified some warm bodies for it?;
-\item  Most devrel requests seem really to relate to CoC 
-violations.  Would
-		you like us to bounce those to the CoC people, process them 
-using CoC
-		rules, or keep doing what we are doing now (generally, close 
-them with a
-		note explaining why or mediate them)?  (I'm talking about the 
-"He's
-		being rude/sarcastic/disrespectful" sorts of things which really 
-need to
-		be processed immediately and merit a warning or brief suspension 
-if
-		anything.)
+\item 
+Do we have an implementation schedule?
+\item 
+Have we identified some warm bodies for it?
+\item
+Most devrel requests seem really to relate to CoC violations. Would you like us 
+to bounce those to the CoC people, process them using CoC rules, or keep doing 
+what we are doing now (generally, close them with a note explaining why or 
+mediate them)?  (I'm talking about the "He's being rude / sarcastic / 
+disrespectful" sorts of things which really need to be processed immediately 
+and merit a warning or brief suspension if anything.)\footnote{This question is 
+not in the meeting log.}
 \end{enumerate}
 
-
-        Council members agreed on the direction, dberkholz will provide
-	additional details on -council ML
-
-
+Council members agreed on the direction; \dev{dberkholz} will provide
+additional details on the gentoo-council mailing list.
 
 
 \agendaitem{Document of being an active developer}
-\index{developer certificate}
-
-Araujo raised that he needs some kind of written document of being an
-	active developer. Argument being that mentioning in CV in his
-	environment is only accepted if there is some kind of proof.
-	Our trustee grant deferred it back to council+infra as Foundation only
-	handles IP, but suggested it could be some kind of generated document.
-
-
-
-Suggested option: Log in to dev.g.o and automatically generate there signed by
-	   infra-maintained key, put userinfo.xml website in the doc as
-	   reference.
-
-	 dberkholz and araujo will look into a scribus based template.
-	 devrel will have to generate a signing key for these purposes.
+\index{developer certificate}\index{trustees}\index{Foundation}
+
+\dev{araujo} raised that he needs some kind of written document of being an
+active developer. His argument was that mentioning this in a CV in his 
+environment is only accepted if there is some kind of proof. Our trustee 
+\dev{grant} deferred it back to council and infra as the Foundation only handles 
+IP, but suggested it could be some kind of generated document.
+
+One suggested option how to handle this in an automated fashion would be to log 
+in to dev.gentoo.org and automatically generate the document there, signed by 
+an infra-maintained key; put userinfo.xml website in the document as reference.
+
+\dev{dberkholz} and \dev{araujo} will look into a scribus based template. devrel 
+will have to generate a signing key for these purposes.\footnote{Also having 
+the council sign it with, e.g., a "Gentoo Council Signing Key 2007-2008" was 
+discussed.}