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<@ulm> meeting time [21:00]
<@ulm> agenda:
https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev-announce/message/1fc299e7662ee2e30cfb1813c13cd7ca
<@ulm> !proj council
<+willikins> (council@gentoo.org) dilfridge, gyakovlev, mattst88, slyfox, ulm,
whissi, williamh
<@ulm> roll call
* slyfox here
* gyakovlev here
* Whissi here
* WilliamH here
<@ulm> dilfridge? mattst88? [21:02]
* dilfridge here
<@mattst88> hello! [21:03]
* ulm here
<@slyfox> \o/ [21:04]
<@mattst88> sorry, cat took over my lap :)
<@ulm> so, let's start
<@slyfox> pic or didn't happen :)
<@ulm> Open bugs with Council participation
<@ulm> bug 662982
<+willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/662982 "[TRACKER] New default
locations for the Gentoo repository, distfiles, and binary
packages"; Gentoo Linux, Current packages; CONF;
zmedico:dev-portage
<@ulm> that's still waiting for its blocker bug 574752
<+willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/574752 "Rename portage-YYYYMMDD.tar*
snapshots with gentoo-YYYYMMDD.tar*"; Gentoo Infrastructure,
Other; IN_P; mgorny:infra-bugs
<@ulm> which is stalled because of the topdir renaming from "portage" to
"gentoo-YYYYMMDD" [21:05]
<@Whissi> The files are on mirror... will ping portage team what is required
to do the switch.
<@ulm> I wonder what would be the issue with naming it gentoo? [21:06]
<@dilfridge> we could just rename ourselves to "portage linux", that might go
faster
<@mattst88> lol
<@WilliamH> ulm: I also have wondered why they need the date in the directory
name.
<@ulm> dilfridge: the problem is that the diffs explode if the topdir name
changes between snapshots
<@WilliamH> ulm: correct. [21:07]
<@dilfridge> right
<@WilliamH> so the dir name should be constant
<@ulm> my simple minded solution would be _not_ to rename it :)
<@ulm> anyone wants to bring forward a motion? :) [21:08]
<@Whissi> No, we already half-way + one step
<@Whissi> We will get to the finish!
<@WilliamH> I motion that the directory name in the snapshots be "gentoo"
without the date.
<@dilfridge> finnish?
<@dilfridge> WilliamH++
<@ulm> please vote on WilliamH's motion [21:09]
* dilfridge yes
<@Whissi> No. No new vote.
* WilliamH yes
<@Whissi> Why do you want to change anything? Can you explain that first?
<@ulm> Whissi: the top-level dir used to be named "portage" without a date
extension
<@WilliamH> Whissi: it has been explained. having the date in the directory
name explodes the diff
<@Whissi> We do --strip-components for that...
<@ulm> Whissi: for creating the diff? [21:10]
<@Whissi> I don't know what you are suddenly talking about.
<veremitz> iirc hasn't robbat2 and zmedico mitigated that issue already?
<@WilliamH> There was no reason given for changing the name of the top level
directory.
<@Whissi> I am still at gentoo-YYYYMMDD.tar*
<@Whissi> And the last progress was that this file is now available
<@ulm> ok, maybe it's wise to table this until next month and get more
information [21:11]
<@Whissi> So at one point we will just switch and no longer provide old
tarball
<@WilliamH> We keep tabling this.
<@WilliamH> Why can't we just get it done?
<@ulm> voting seems a little too knee-jerk right now
<@Whissi> Maybe because nobody really knows the exact status.
<@WilliamH> If we have to revert back we should to get it done since this is
such a blocker. [21:12]
<@ulm> but we should ask infra and/or the portage team why they need a date
extension now
<@WilliamH> ulm: ++
<@Whissi> I can volunteer to get bug updated with current status and what's
blocking.
<@slyfox> sounds good!
<@ulm> Whissi: please do, thanks [21:13]
<@ulm> so, voting is aborted
<@WilliamH> Ok fwm.
<@ulm> anyone else wants to comment on this?
<@WilliamH> There was no need before for the date in the dir name so I agree
that needs to be explained.
<@ulm> let's move on [21:14]
<@ulm> but 688876
<@ulm> bug 688876
<+willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/688876 "Comrel webpage does not
document expectations of privacy"; Community Relations, Developer
Relations; CONF; rich0:comrel
<@WilliamH> I guess we are just monitoring that
<@ulm> we're only in cc, I don't see anything actionable for council
<@slyfox> Worth asking the update in the bug.
<@ulm> slyfox: can you do please?
<@slyfox> Will do [21:15]
<@ulm> k
<@ulm> bug 729062
<+willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/729062 "Services and Software which
is critical for Gentoo should be developed/run in the Gentoo
namespace"; Gentoo Council, unspecified; IN_P; jstein:council
<@mattst88> yeah, seems reasonable to ask ComRel to respond
<@Whissi> Discussion not yet finished. No motion called yet.
<@WilliamH> I don't think that's actionable either.
<@ulm> yeah, let's wait for the result of the discussion [21:16]
<@ulm> or for its dying down :/
<@ulm> bug 736760
<+willikins> ulm: https://bugs.gentoo.org/736760 "Application to Software
Freedom Conservancy"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF;
mgorny:trustees
<@ulm> nothing actionable there either atm
<@WilliamH> Right.
<@gyakovlev> it's in progress
<@gyakovlev> but yeah
<@ulm> so [21:18]
<@ulm> opemn floor
<@ulm> *open
<@ulm> anyone?
<@mattst88> just as an aside: I've finished up my personal stuff that was
sucking my time as of Friday, so I'll get the meeting minutes for
the two months I chaired out today [21:19]
<@slyfox> woohooo!
<@ulm> good :)
<@ulm> september is missing too, I guess I'll do it together with this one
[21:20]
<@gyakovlev> and I almost got my log out of drives from dead machine. raid
card arrives today, which will help me get data out.
<@ulm> so, looks like there's nothing else on open floor [21:21]
<@ulm> meeting is closed then
<@dilfridge> \o/
<@Whissi> \o/
<@Whissi> Thank you for chairing!
<@slyfox> Thanks all!
* gyakovlev goes to sleep
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<@gyakovlev> thanks
<@ulm> gyakovlev: you'll be chairing next month [21:22]
<@gyakovlev> ack
<@ulm> and everyone note end of daylight saving time
* gyakovlev settiing up reminders
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